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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Lori Perkins was way out of line.  I left a comment telling her so, basically repeating what you&#039;ve said here.  Also, she seems to think her agency was doing this man a favor (pointing out that Sandy was reading in her free time), as opposed to doing her job.  That&#039;s what she&#039;s SUPPOSED to do for everyone from whom she requests material.  It wasn&#039;t a very special just-for-him thing, and he had a right to know his status.

&quot;Barbara, I think it’s an important point, but I just want to point out that other people in the industry besides writers are putting in blood, sweat, and tears. Editors are not known for being particularly well-paid, either. Same holds true, from the copy editors to the cover artists to the very dedicated people who sell books to the accounts.&quot;

I don&#039;t disagree.  But without writers, none of those people would have jobs.  Editors would have nothing to edit.  Cover artists would have no covers for which to create art.  People who sell books to accounts would have nothing to sell.  I&#039;m not saying they DON&#039;T put in long hours, blood, sweat, and tears.  But without writers, they wouldn&#039;t be doing any of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Lori Perkins was way out of line.  I left a comment telling her so, basically repeating what you&#8217;ve said here.  Also, she seems to think her agency was doing this man a favor (pointing out that Sandy was reading in her free time), as opposed to doing her job.  That&#8217;s what she&#8217;s SUPPOSED to do for everyone from whom she requests material.  It wasn&#8217;t a very special just-for-him thing, and he had a right to know his status.</p>
<p>&#8220;Barbara, I think it’s an important point, but I just want to point out that other people in the industry besides writers are putting in blood, sweat, and tears. Editors are not known for being particularly well-paid, either. Same holds true, from the copy editors to the cover artists to the very dedicated people who sell books to the accounts.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree.  But without writers, none of those people would have jobs.  Editors would have nothing to edit.  Cover artists would have no covers for which to create art.  People who sell books to accounts would have nothing to sell.  I&#8217;m not saying they DON&#8217;T put in long hours, blood, sweat, and tears.  But without writers, they wouldn&#8217;t be doing any of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not to mention the entire industry makes money off the blood sweat an tears of the WRITERS!&quot;

Barbara, I think it&#039;s an important point, but I just want to point out that other people in the industry besides writers are putting in blood, sweat, and tears. Editors are not known for being particularly well-paid, either. Same holds true, from the copy editors to the cover artists to the very dedicated people who sell books to the accounts.

Publishing receives an enormous subsidy in the form of people who love books, who are quite intelligent, and who choose to work with books when they could make scads more money writing ad copy or whatever it is that they could have done instead. Writers aren&#039;t alone by any stretch of the imagination, and sadly, there are many segments of book publishing that would be quite pleased to make nominal profits.

And Ericka--depending on the agent, it could be that something has come up, like a health issue or a family question. If this is someone who otherwise has a reputation for timeliness, I wouldn&#039;t jump to any conclusions yet. But yes, that&#039;s usually a red flag--especially if you&#039;ve gotten publisher interest &amp; haven&#039;t heard a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not to mention the entire industry makes money off the blood sweat an tears of the WRITERS!&#8221;</p>
<p>Barbara, I think it&#8217;s an important point, but I just want to point out that other people in the industry besides writers are putting in blood, sweat, and tears. Editors are not known for being particularly well-paid, either. Same holds true, from the copy editors to the cover artists to the very dedicated people who sell books to the accounts.</p>
<p>Publishing receives an enormous subsidy in the form of people who love books, who are quite intelligent, and who choose to work with books when they could make scads more money writing ad copy or whatever it is that they could have done instead. Writers aren&#8217;t alone by any stretch of the imagination, and sadly, there are many segments of book publishing that would be quite pleased to make nominal profits.</p>
<p>And Ericka&#8211;depending on the agent, it could be that something has come up, like a health issue or a family question. If this is someone who otherwise has a reputation for timeliness, I wouldn&#8217;t jump to any conclusions yet. But yes, that&#8217;s usually a red flag&#8211;especially if you&#8217;ve gotten publisher interest &#038; haven&#8217;t heard a response.</p>
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		<title>By: Ericka Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ericka Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that this should be on your blog this week...I subbed a query to an agent (not this one) and got an immediate request for a full. The timeframe on the website says 4 weeks for a reply and feel free to query...I waited 8 weeks, queried, got no answer, updated the agent just this week (around week 13) that an editor had expressed interest in publishing the book and inquired whether she was still interested in representing the novel. This e-mail update/query is still unanswered. Now, I don&#039;t expect her to jump on a manuscript, but I do expect a polite answer. Needless to say, this particular agent has been cut from my list -- and despite the fact that I don&#039;t even want to tell her to take it out of her pile, I will withdraw the manuscript politely -- because it&#039;s the right thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that this should be on your blog this week&#8230;I subbed a query to an agent (not this one) and got an immediate request for a full. The timeframe on the website says 4 weeks for a reply and feel free to query&#8230;I waited 8 weeks, queried, got no answer, updated the agent just this week (around week 13) that an editor had expressed interest in publishing the book and inquired whether she was still interested in representing the novel. This e-mail update/query is still unanswered. Now, I don&#8217;t expect her to jump on a manuscript, but I do expect a polite answer. Needless to say, this particular agent has been cut from my list &#8212; and despite the fact that I don&#8217;t even want to tell her to take it out of her pile, I will withdraw the manuscript politely &#8212; because it&#8217;s the right thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Longley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Longley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the entire industry makes money off the blood sweat an tears of the WRITERS! Somehow it&#039;s all gone topsy-turvey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the entire industry makes money off the blood sweat an tears of the WRITERS! Somehow it&#8217;s all gone topsy-turvey!</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tessa, yes, it&#039;s really weird. I just don&#039;t get it. There are some agents who I think really use twitter (and blogs) well. And there are some who... don&#039;t. Oh well!

And Vanessa, Christina, and Miranda, I think you&#039;re all highlighting the most important point: an agent-client relationship is a partnership. It&#039;s an odd partnership in formation, with the agent (usually) having the upper hand. But it&#039;s a partnership nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tessa, yes, it&#8217;s really weird. I just don&#8217;t get it. There are some agents who I think really use twitter (and blogs) well. And there are some who&#8230; don&#8217;t. Oh well!</p>
<p>And Vanessa, Christina, and Miranda, I think you&#8217;re all highlighting the most important point: an agent-client relationship is a partnership. It&#8217;s an odd partnership in formation, with the agent (usually) having the upper hand. But it&#8217;s a partnership nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darcy, I completely agree with you! An exercise in compare and contrast: Lori Perkins&#039; post with what Jim McCarthy &lt;a href=&quot;http://dglm.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-i-signed-up.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote about Darcy on his blog&lt;/a&gt;. 

One of the things I loved about that post was that it showed that he was thinking about you as a writer and as someone with something valuable to offer, even before he offered representation, instead of having an attitude that since he represents several New York Times bestselling authors, everyone should just get out of his way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darcy, I completely agree with you! An exercise in compare and contrast: Lori Perkins&#8217; post with what Jim McCarthy <a href="http://dglm.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-i-signed-up.html" rel="nofollow">wrote about Darcy on his blog</a>. </p>
<p>One of the things I loved about that post was that it showed that he was thinking about you as a writer and as someone with something valuable to offer, even before he offered representation, instead of having an attitude that since he represents several New York Times bestselling authors, everyone should just get out of his way.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda Neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda Neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough I just unfollowed an agent on Twitter because I was so sick of snide remarks about poor idiot writers who dare to send stupid queries to this incredibly important person. Excuse me, this agent makes money by taking 15% of the earnings of writers. It&#039;s nice to think she has such a high opinion of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough I just unfollowed an agent on Twitter because I was so sick of snide remarks about poor idiot writers who dare to send stupid queries to this incredibly important person. Excuse me, this agent makes money by taking 15% of the earnings of writers. It&#8217;s nice to think she has such a high opinion of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most illuminating this Lori Perkins said was in the comments to that blog post:

&lt;i&gt;When writers treat me and my agency like some run of the mill agency, I get pissed. And anyone who doesn&#039;t understand how busy (and generous) I am (and by extension how busy my associates are), should NOT be sending me/us queries. I don&#039;t have time for whining, and nether do my agents.&lt;/i&gt;

I guess my understanding of &quot;generous&quot; and my definition of &quot;whining&quot; are out of whack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most illuminating this Lori Perkins said was in the comments to that blog post:</p>
<p><i>When writers treat me and my agency like some run of the mill agency, I get pissed. And anyone who doesn&#8217;t understand how busy (and generous) I am (and by extension how busy my associates are), should NOT be sending me/us queries. I don&#8217;t have time for whining, and nether do my agents.</i></p>
<p>I guess my understanding of &#8220;generous&#8221; and my definition of &#8220;whining&#8221; are out of whack.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post, Courtney.  It seems so basic that common courtesy and professional respect should prevail on both sides of the equation.

And, yes, Tessa - I think you&#039;re correct.  Some days I think we&#039;re nothing more than cannon fodder for the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post, Courtney.  It seems so basic that common courtesy and professional respect should prevail on both sides of the equation.</p>
<p>And, yes, Tessa &#8211; I think you&#8217;re correct.  Some days I think we&#8217;re nothing more than cannon fodder for the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa Dare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn&#039;t seen that, but...wow. 

I find the whole trend of agents publicly bagging on writers&#039; submissions/correspondence on Twitter, blogs, and the like to be disturbing.  Sure, there is something to be learned from examples of &quot;what not to do&quot; - but it&#039;s one thing for authors to voluntarily submit their queries, pages, and pitches for public snarking, and another for agents to take private correspondence and post it without the author&#039;s permission.  

Doesn&#039;t it feel like things have changed since a few years ago, when we were querying?  Ah, the pre-Twitter world.  Back then, I never would have worried that my directly-emailed query would end up as blog or tweet fodder.  Now, it seems writers have to start from that assumption.  Which is kinda sad. Posts like this would make me consider returning to paper queries, if I were querying today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t seen that, but&#8230;wow. </p>
<p>I find the whole trend of agents publicly bagging on writers&#8217; submissions/correspondence on Twitter, blogs, and the like to be disturbing.  Sure, there is something to be learned from examples of &#8220;what not to do&#8221; &#8211; but it&#8217;s one thing for authors to voluntarily submit their queries, pages, and pitches for public snarking, and another for agents to take private correspondence and post it without the author&#8217;s permission.  </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it feel like things have changed since a few years ago, when we were querying?  Ah, the pre-Twitter world.  Back then, I never would have worried that my directly-emailed query would end up as blog or tweet fodder.  Now, it seems writers have to start from that assumption.  Which is kinda sad. Posts like this would make me consider returning to paper queries, if I were querying today.</p>
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